Tuesday, May 20, 2008

Don't Believe The Hype: Reconsiderations Of Barack Obama's "New" Birthtime Part Two - Vedic Analysis

Don't Believe The Hype: Reconsiderations Of Barack Obama's "New" Birthtime Part Two - Vedic Analysis

7:53 PM 05/19/2008 Mon

Having laid the groundwork for my argument that the "new" birthtime for Barack Obama is highly suspect, even flatout false, I will now turn to the Vedic astrological evidence supporting my contention. Here I should like to note to those unfamiliar with my writings, that I have, for nearly the past two years, worked intensely with a rectification "test" time of mine which yields a 29 Gemini Asc using the Tropical Zodiac. It has come through again and again with regard to timing measures and captures the symbolism of his life very well. But, because I could never be 100% certain of Obama's birthtime, I have resisted offering a Vedic analysis of his chart.
Until now. Fate it would seem, has forced my hand.

For earlier today, as I was doing a bit of research in preparation for these essays, I ran accross Ms. Joni Patry's (the source of the "new" birthtime for Obama) Vedic analysis of his chart. Of course, per the Sidereal Zodiac, she uses a Capricorn Asc for Obama, placing both Jupiter and Saturn in the 1st house, with the Sun and Mercury in the 7th. And while she finally concludes that should Obama be the nominee of the Democratic Party, he will loose against Republican nominee Sen. John McCain - and while I agree with her that it is my contention that McCain is the likely winner, at least at this point - I most vociferously disagree with her astrological reasoning for Obama, on the basis that the birthtime she uses yields a chart that does not comport in the least with what we know about Obama's life.

So, as I layout my case now, please let me say that a fundamental premise of astrology, any kind of astrology, is simply this: if the planets don't fit, you must aquit. Period. If the chart doesn't match the reality of the native, then you can be pretty certain that you have the wrong chart. This is the core reasoning behind Horary in the Western tradition, and as far as Vedic goes, with its long and strong reputation for getting pinpoint accuracy in predictions, the same thing goes.

Here is the timed data, again, based on my rectification tests, for Barack Obama:

Aug 4 1961 3AM AHST (NOTE: I had previously listed the time as 4AM and used daylight savings time; I have since learned that Hawaii does not and has not used DST for many, many years. It was NOT in effect at the time Obama was born. My bad.) Honolulu HI; Lahiri 7 Gem 41; Mrigshira, rising Naksatra.

I begin.

In the book Light on Life, a must-have introductory, yet comprehensive, text on Vedic astrology, Hart Defouw offers the chart of slain Prime Minister Indira Ghandi, whose birthtime still is a source of great debate and controversy among astrologers in India to this day. Defouw shows how a skillful use of the houses and graha yogas (planetary combinations, or formulas, not unlike midpoints etc.) can aid the astrologer in coming to the right conclusion in the rectification process. The reader is kindly asked to compare and contrast my analysis of Obama using a Gemini Asc and Ms. Patry's using a Capricorn Asc, and see for themselves.

With regard to Obama, let's quickly note some very basic, yet highly signficant facts about his life:

1. He is bi-racial; his mother is White, his father is Black; his mom from Kansas, his dad from Kenya.

2. He is the author of two highly successful, bestselling books, the source of his wealth according to widely published reports. One of his books is an autobiography which at the center, are the longings for his father; the other takes its title from the only father figure he's ever known, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright's sermons.

3. He came out of nowhere to become a serious Presidential candidate, at this point all but certain to be the Democratic nominee.

4. He has two children, both girls; his marriage to Michelle Robinson Obama is stable and without scandal or incident.

5. Both his parents died at relatively young ages, and when Obama was young himself. His mom died when he was in his early 30s; his dad died while he was still a boy.

6. Both parents remarried; his mom once (two marriages), his dad at least four times.

7. Obama has attended among the best schools IN THE WORLD, from a very early age. He is the first African American ever to be on the Harvard Law Review.

8. A major scandal erupted over the nature of the church Obama attended, to which he was first forced to address in the form of a "race speech" in Mar 2008, only to come back to address the situation again a month later.

OK. I think we have enough bare-bones info on Obama to begin an astrological examination.
First, the Asc - Gemini is the perfect fit - the bi-racial identity, the "two faces" he seems to show the public, especially in light of the Rev. Wright scandal (note 9th lord Saturn in the 8th house of scandal! More in a sec), the book and speech writing, the education and even his *two* daughters, when you take into account Venus, as 5th lord, sits in the Gemini Asc. Its all there. Not so for Capricorn rising.

This Asc position makes even more sense when one considers Mercury, the Asc Lord, is placed in the 2nd house, long known in Jyotishical circles as a house of classical learning. It forms a Budhaditya Yoga with the Sun, amplifying his innate intelligence. Mercury rules the 4th house of formal educational degrees; Venus, as the 5th lord of intelligence and bookwriting (along with the 2nd house!), again is in the Asc. Obama has studied at Occidental College, Columbia and Harvard Universities, and holds a degree in Constitutional Law.

For the parents, we would want to see the 4th and 9th houses, that which represent the mother and father, respectively. Here we can easily see what the problems were. As Mercury is both Lagnesh and 4th lord, it is right to take the karaka, or universal significator, or the mother and use that planet instead of Mercury, leaving it to represent Obama alone (we will employ this method yet again in another key area of Obama's life; stay tuned). The Moon represents the mother in all horoscopes, and in this one we can clearly see that it is damaged by being placed in the 12th house, arguably the singleworst place to be by house for the Moon. Among other things, Obama's mother spent much of her life away from the land/country of her birth, living abroad and mainly in and around Indonesia, where she would meet her second husband and give birth to a second child. The 12 house represents foreign lands. The 12th house also represents sorrow, misery and suffering, even death. But the Moon's exalted! Shouldn't that account for something? Well, not a lot - that's because the Moon itself has just entered its Sign, meaning that its still a beat weak because it's at a junction point between two Signs; this is known as Rasi Sandhi. One thing that I always remind people of, is that an exalted planet may not be all its cracked up to be; one must make a careful inspection of the houses and other planets involved before proclaiming all the promised benefits of such a planet. However, we can tell that Obama was indeed very close to his mother, as Moon Sign Lord Venus is placed in the Asc and very close to the rising degree.

As for father, things don't look so well either - Not only does the 9th lord, Saturn, sits placed in the 8th house - one of the worst houses for a Vedic chart - but Ketu, another first rate malefic, actually sits in the 9th. This is a perfect symbolism for the father, Barack Obama Sr., a man who had many wives (at least two of whom were White - note Rahu in the 7th from the 9th, i.e., the 3rd house), who had a drinking problem, and who eventually died in an automobile crash which severed his legs, and whom Obama the Younger only met ONCE in his entire life! ALL of the themes of the Nodes - Rahu and Ketu - come alive in this chart using the Gemini Asc insofar as the parents are concerned. Saturn is closely conjunct Jupiter; although Saturn is dignified, Jupiter is not, and placed in the radical 8th house will suggest that Obama the Elder may do things he's not too proud of later. Among them were his taking wives unbeknownst to his current ones. The 8th house has long been known as that of disgraceful acts. Jupiter represents one's morality and ethics. Both are heavily involved here in the Gemini chart option. This position does not bode well for the father's health and longevity, as the 8th house is the 12th from the 9th. Loss.

If we no consider the 7th houses away from the 4th (radical 10th) and 9th (radical 3rd) and keep in mind what Parasara said about combinations for multiple spouses, it is easy to see using the Gemini rising chart how Obama's parents could remarry so frequently. Parasara says, that if the 7th lord is conjunct or aspected by a benefic, there will be many spouses; the same will be true if the 7th lord is exalted.

Looking at the 7th house from the 4th, as note that Jupiter is aspected by the "multiple-minded" planet Mercury. For the 9th, we can see that the 7th lord is conjunct this same Mercury, and is now aspected by Jupiter to boot. Hence we see the multiple marriages.

What about Obama's marriage? Surely the Gemini rising chart must give some clues there, right? And indeed it does - Jupiter rules the 7th and is aspected by Mercury, This not only joins the 1st and 7th houses together by rulership, but also brings in some added "benefits" in the form of additional yogas, namely Satkalatra and Bahu Stree, both of whom are highly favorable for happiness in marriage. Also, note Venus' aspect on the 7th house as well, and Venus is Darakaraka (planet of the spouse) in a man's chart.

Lastly, before we move on to Dasas, let's consider Obama's meteoric rise to fame as a politician and serious contender for the White House. To be able to do something like that must indicate some powerful Raj Yogas, or "king making" combinations, yes? And we find them in this map, in this way:

As mentioned many times before, Venus is the 5th lord of political issues, and sits closely conjunct the Geminis Asc point; this accounts for his huge popularity.

Lagnesh Mercury gets the full aspect of Jupiter and Saturn, who both form a Dharma Karma Adipati Yoga, as these planets rule the 10th and 9th houses respectively. Jupiter is no doubt fallen, but Saturn "lifts" him up somewhat by himself being in his own Sign to act.

Note how this combination - Jupiter and Saturn - become strong again in the Chandra Lagna, or Moon Ascendant chart, now sitting in the 9th from the Moon.

And note how strong the Navamsa chart is, lifting the qualities of Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn, Rahu and Ketu! That is very rare to see in Jyotish, a Navamsa that strong. And the exalted Nodes, sitting in the 1-7 house axis in this chart, guarantees that Obama will not only mesmerize the mass media and public at large, but that he will also be "the race candidate". Indeed, he has. On all fronts.

Let us now consider the Dasa scheme of some of the key events in his life. Obama was born at the very end of Mars Dasa, not a good sign for the father sticking around, as Mars lies in the 7th from 9th. Obama himself reports that his father left him and his mother at the age of two - just as Rahu Dasa was getting off the ground (beginning Sep 1961). Obama Sr. would divorce Ann Dunham, Obama's mother, in 1963. Rahu was running both its major and sub periods at this time - and please note again, that the 7th house from the 9th is activated, as both Mars and Rahu are placed there. Both Mars and Rahu represent severing, especially when placed in a Sign like Leo, ruled by the malefic Sun.

Now, if we consider Obama's mother's second marriage, which ran from 1966 or so, till about 1980, we can clearly track the events by way of the Dasas operating in Obama's chart at that time. For the earlier period, we can see that Saturn sub period in the Dasa of Rahu was running. Saturn is conjunct Jupiter, who is 7th lord from the 4th house of mother in Obama's chart per Gemini rising. For the divorice from the second hubbie, we can see that Jupiter Dasa was just beginning. Keep in mind please, that Jupiter is not well placed in the Rasi, or birthchart, for Obama.

Obama's father died in 1982, right in the midst of Jupiter-Saturn Dasa(!); Obama's mother died in Nov 1995, right after the onset of Saturn Dasa began. Please note that, from the 9th, Jupiter and Saturn are in the 12th from the 9th, aspect the 10th which is 2nd from the 9th and aspect the 7th lord - all Marakas. In the case of the mother, please note that Saturn aspects the 7th from the 4th, is conjunct the 7th house (from the 4th) lord, and finally aspects the 2nd house from the 4th as well (radical 5th).

It was during the latter time, that Obama began to get interested in politics. In Jyotisha, there are two major planets that speak to political aims; one is the Sun, and the other is Saturn. And in Obama's case, both impact strongly on his Lagnesh Mercury.

Obama won his US Senate seat in the largest margin ever in Illinois state history, some 70% of the vote. Saturn-Venus was running at the time; please note how both these planets are friends and rule trinal houses for the Senator, per the Gemini rising chart.

It would be under this same combination that Obama would give his riveting address at the Democratic Convention at Boston in 2004. This was when he reached national prominence.

He then decided to run for the Presidency with the Moon running its sub period in early 2007; in Mar 2008, the Rev. Wright scandal broke, as Mars sub period in Saturn Dasa began. Please note two very important things here - Mars sits 8 houses away from Saturn, Bhavat Bhavam; and that when two natural malefics run their major and minor periods at the same time, lookout! We can also add that Mars is an enemy to Mercury. Saturn rules the 9th house of preachers, churches and father figures. That Obama would be forced to cut all ties with Wright only a month after his famed "race speech" is again another testimony of both the Dasa scheme at work, and as well, the Gemini rising chart.

And that brings us to the present time, with both these planets still very much in operation, to last until the Spring of 2009. With both Mars and Saturn aspecting Obama's Piscean 10th house, and with the 10th lord debilitated in the 8th house, it is hard to see eventual victory for him; in this I would agree with Ms. Patry. But the point remains, that until we can actually see a birth record that confirms that which she told the world the other night at Denver, I then maintain that the evidence I have offered in this essay is every bit as valid as anything she or anyone else has said. As I've said earlier, if the Planets don't fit, you must acquit!

Comment and reply, invited.

Salaam,
Mu

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Galaxies make up universes. Universes make up Cosmic Spheres. Our cosmic sphere is the matter of which our sun is the center. When you look at the sky what you see is Western Sidereal Zodiacal Astrology as Sidereal astrology reckons celestial longitude from the fixed stars. Before any understanding or education of astrology can take place one must first understand and agree on what the Zodiac is.
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The path the planets are orbiting through around the Sun is the Zodiac and it is not moving. For all practical purposes the path is sitting still and the planets are moving through the path around the Sun. The stars and space are in a fixed position and the Planets are orbiting through the stars and space around the Sun. This is physical reality and Western Sidereal Zodiacal Astrology.
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The zodiac is the baseline of the three dimensional model of our cosmic sphere. The Zodiac or Ecliptic is the physical PATH or ORBIT of all the planets around the Sun in our cosmic sphere. Rather than being like a molecule with particles whirling about every which way all the planets orbit the sun in the same zodiacal ecliptic plane. The 12-constellation system validity with fixed star Spica at 29 Virgo 6'5" is shown by properly done ingress horoscopes.
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The horizon, equator, seasons and seasonal rotation affect only earth the Zodiac affects the entire Cosmic Sphere, SIDEREAL ASTROLOGY. Sidereal means measured by a star, physical reality. Rather than being a philosophical matter of opinion this is plain old-fashioned Physical Astronomical Reality. Regardless of how one attempts to rationalize any misconception of this matter the Sun will still Rise in the East in the morning because the Earth is Rotating on its axis and Revolving about the Sun in its Fixed Sidereal Zodiacal Ecliptical Orbit.
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Of the most common astrologer errors is incomplete work also the accuracy of the event data. This is compounded by the fact that few astrologers even know what complete work is. The horoscope is a scientific document and must be done accurately with the correct documentation to prove the case. Many scenarios require identification and all manner of data, professional astrology requires complete and accurate I.D. and coordinates. The more complete and accurate the data the more complete and accurate the reading.
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Most astrologers are theorists with zero provable ground of being application with which to sort the truth and fallacies out of the multitude of astrological commentary. One can still hear the Old Man now “self-taught self-styled half-baked authority read a book on Zen and think they are Buddha”. Read some astrology material Harry said this Billy Bob wrote that call that research then start talking and writing.
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The teknoids especially the ones that fail to grasp the big picture tend to try to drag all manor of mathematical what not into it. They become enthralled with the mathematics of it all, confuse being a mathematician with being an astrologer and seek an astrological application for all the astronomical mathematical points most of which have zero astrological delineation. Essentially Azimuth, Altitude, Right Ascension, Declination, Equator, Horizon, Apogee and Perigee, how close a planet is to earth and so forth have nothing to do with astrological delineation. IT IS SIDEREAL ZODIACAL LONGITUDE THAT COUNTS.
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What happens is that when astrologers fail to use a complete file of horoscope charts for the event it results in mass wandering about psychic guessing. They wind up grasping at straws using the law of substitution trying to find symbology to explain the events that occur. Next thing you know they're talking you how it is straws like the right ascension of the heliacal rising of the left handed moon node was EXACTLY paran trine the mundo midpoint between their Mars and Venus - (see, SEE it's right there!!!). Ask them what the file looks like and it’s err, Uhh, DA. Things like demi-solars, quarter year solars and on and on are just not needed when using a complete file. When using a properly prepared complete horoscope file the repeated patterns that emerge throughout the file are just too obvious to miss. Incomplete creates inconsistent.
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Unless ones research is also displayed in the correctly produced full file format baseline there is no way to check what actually happened, to judge what is really going on in the case at hand and therefore verify the validity of the research and what realistic relationship the application of the data has. Again this file begins with ACCURATE event times and longitude and latitude coordinates.
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Empirical research is setting up COMPLETE FILES for thousands of cases in an absolute proof ground of being such as money, births, deaths, accidents to test each of the theories. Sally Sue will say “oh I wasn’t depressed last Tuesday” Armchair theorizing is one thing however one can not kid ones self about the money, either you have the money or they have the money.
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Example - Some astrologer wrote a piece assessing the 75 year career of some monkey (an actor) biased on a singular rising angular planet with a hundred year old turn of the century 10 AM birth time which tells us that one is clearly ready for the big therapy in the sky. An even hour birth time from any era much less one from the beginning of the twentieth century is most certainly a round off if not an out right guess. Therefore any speculation about angularity is just that. Delineate the horoscope chart as a whole in the baseline context of a complete file. One has a better chance of getting the higher self-manifestation from a rising planet in a well aspected horoscope than in a negatively aspected chart, all rising sign planets also sun and moon aspects affect appearance and so forth et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
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Contrary to popular belief one of average ability may learn to be a great astrologer very quickly rather than requiring years and decades or a lot of historical reference, astronomical or mathematical study.
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The historical study of astrology entails sorting through some ninety percent or more misinformation to prove out the truth and falsehood in some absolute proof ground of being which has already been done at least once and is herewith given to you for free and elucidated on www.CountGramalkin.Com. In fact historical study of astrology may be more of a hindrance than a help as unlearning and relearning can be much more difficult to impossible than learning.
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For example many if not most people infected with seasonal moving zodiac Tropical astrology who wise up to Sidereal astrology never get free of attempting to use the Tropical modus operandi in Sidereal astrology this does not work. E.g. the delineation of a tropical sign is different that the delineation of the Sidereal constellation of the same name or eternally prattling on about the house system of delineation eTc.
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Again people, in the twenty and twenty first century one born in a subterranean dwelling with zero TV, radio, or pictures or never saw the sky, the planet surface, the sun, moon or a star who never even heard of astronomy, right ascension, declination, horizon, the equatorial system of measurement et cetera who can add and subtract with a pencil a set of books and the San Francisco School of Sidereal Astrology Technique of Delineation could be a fabulous astrologer. The cardinal sin of mankind is mistaking the apparent for the real such as mistaking being a great astronomer, historian or mathematician with being a great astrologer. It is ok (even good) to know the astronomy side of it however unnecessary in doing astrology. The people who so famously managed to hit the comet half a kajillian miles from earth with the space probe all knew their astronomy however try getting one of them to correctly delineate ones horoscope.
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Even I in a good workweek teach a gifted student enough astrology to make them one of the best few hundred astrologers who ever lived the essence of which is given away on www.CountGramalkin.Com. There is a lot more to it of course however it will just have to wait for the book.
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It is very helpful to have a realistic understanding of the Intrinsic Value of the Planets (the meaning or definition / delineation of the planets) and where and when to apply them. The one word Intrinsic Value of the Planets and therefore the Signs delineation (more on gramalkin.com).
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Sun/Leo = Spirit; Moon/Cancer = Soul; Mercury/Gemini/Virgo = Intellect; Venus/Taurus/Libra = Love; Mars/Aries = Sex; Jupiter/Sagittarius = Win; Saturn/Capricorn = Lose; Uranus/Aquarius = Intuition; Neptune/Pisces = Imagination; Pluto/Scorpio = Death.
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"Western Sidereal Zodiacal Constellations or Signs" - Epoch 1950 - Aries = April 15th; Taurus = May 15th; Gemini = June 15th; Cancer = July 16th; Leo = Aug 17th; Virgo = Sept 17th; Libra = Oct 17th; Scorpio = Nov 16th; Sagittarius = Dec 16th; Capricorn = Jan 15th; Aquarius = Feb 14th; Pisces = March 15th. Actual dates may vary a bit due to the leap year thingy.
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The best advice I have for you is to take my best advice. Read and heed every word of the material on www.CountGramalkin.Com (the entire contents only amount to a pamphlet). This will provide one an accurate rendition of the secret of the cosmos / the meaning of life / enlightenment, how to read / predict it and what to do about it. Adept at everything on CountGramalkin.Com one would be at will at one with God co-creators with God. Each article must be composed, as though it is the only Gramalkin article the reader will ever see. Therefore a certain amount of duplication of information occurs as a necessity of stating the case.
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The zodiac ecliptic is the baseline of the three dimensional model of our cosmic sphere. Do horoscopes for the location of birth in Sidereal Zodiacal Longitude Ecliptic with the fixed star Spica at 29 Virgo 6’:5” Epoch 1977 - Full BIRTH Name, Date, First Breath Time, Place (Longitude & Latitude), Race, Gender - Geographic, Campanus Table of Houses, Octoscope and East Point Angles, Arabic Lunar Mansions, Major Fixed Star Aspects and Constellation Breaks. Porphyry is the second best house system.
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The complete file is The Natal; Secondary Progressed Planets and Primary Angles; Secondary Natal Quotidian (SNQ); Solar Return, Monthly Solar Return, Lunar Return and their daily Progressed Main Angles also the Event Chart inner-aspected with the Transits and major Fixed Stars to all. The natal horoscope plus two horoscopes a year, two horoscopes a month and four horoscopes a day plus the Event Horoscope (Transits which is done for the location of event) inner-aspected. Incidentally the complete file format makes it easier to read events rather than harder as the repeated patterns are too obvious to miss. The essence of the San Francisco School of Sidereal Astrology Technique of Delineation is available free as a PDF eBook here. http://www.gramalkin.com/gramalkin_layout_chart.html
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The repeated simultaneous occurrence pattern of illuminated angularity (Sun Moon Jupiter Rising) being the most important factor. One copy of each horoscope chart by its self and one copy of each horoscope interaspected. Count Score on +&- intrinsic values to read Higher \ Lower Self, Yes \ No eTc. To delineate in any given sphere, use the Intrinsic Adjectives common to that sphere. E.g. Venus - Psychologically = Love & Peace. Mundanely = Food & Clothes. Medically = Kidney eTc. eTc.
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In the production of the horoscope all charts should be drawn the same way in the classical style just like Mazurek taught us at school as illustrated in the Marilyn Monroe Sample Horoscope available on www.CountGramalkin.com. Horoscopes must be hand drawn as at the time of this writing there are no known correctly produced computerized horoscopes.
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In drawing the horoscope do all math twice and write EVERYTHING left to right HORIZONTALLY. Date Time and Standard Time of event in the center. Name, Race, Gender and Place upper left. Coordinates; SVP; Delta T and GMT to RAMC in the upper right hand corner. Horoscope Identification in the upper middle Such as: Sidereal Zodiacal Longitude Natal; Geographic; Campanus; Octoscope; Arabic Lunar Mansions (and unless you physically see a birth certificate eTc. the word SPECULATIVE). Whatever decoding is necessary - Major aspects and angular planets and stars et cetera at the bottom. Draw in all the angles, the 4 Main, the 4 Octoscope Midpoint and East Point angles. Midheaven = tenth house, ascendant = first house. Draw angular planet glyphs on the angle, lacking space draw a line from the planet glyph across the angle. Dash Lines - - - = A Constellation Change. Draw one copy of the horoscope taken by its self, another copy for inner-aspect composite. Draw all composite charts the same way regardless of which type of chart it is. Natal in the center in black then Progressed in red then Solar Return in green then Monthly Solar Return and Lunar Return in available colors finally transits in pencil.
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This format for drawing charts is recommended because of being able to actually read the charts. When dealing with sixty planets and forty-four fixed stars on the ten charts that make up the complete file baseline having numbers written going every which way and or zero consistency, data scattered about, the Midheaven here or there and one this color the next another makes it difficult to impossible to physically read and comprehend the file. E.g. whoever drew the file all secondary progressed in red shazam one immediately knows what one is dealing with.
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In real life work-a-day astrology not all hand drawn charts get full label. A progressed lunar return in a complete file for example may just have - Progressed Lunar a name, date, coordinates, RAMC etc. On composite horoscopes one may use just the planet and signs to the degree, insert minutes for the angles and whatever else is necessary, zero fixed stars and such just refer back to the original copy of the chart done by itself as necessary.
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Always consider all charts with all the Techniques of Delineation then apply the appropriate one for the type of problem being solved.
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IIA. The Natal Technique of Delineation is used in reading Natal and Cyclic charts for the “Psychological Makeup / Psychological Conditions” one is dealing with, therefore the events - as above so below (With some cyclic exception rules).
Aspects are via Sign and House (Campanus). The angle orbs are: East Point is always zero degree orb 60‘.
The Constellation on the Ascendant and the first house is the Ascendant Angle.
Minus ten degrees from the Midheaven and the Tenth House is the Midheaven Angle.
The Descendent and Nadir minus five degrees and the Angular or Foreground house constitute the Angle.
The Zodiacal Octoscope Watch Midpoint Angles are at the center of the 8 Watches and have a five-degree orb of Angularity. The Watch Midpoint Angles are the Zodiacal Midpoints between the four Main Angles. The Watch Cusps are the midpoints between the main angles and the midpoint angles. The Octotopus is the Octoscope without the watch cusps. Watches run clockwise from Ascendant 1=Self/Body-Will Power-Akin to 2nd moon colors mind; 2=Livelihood-$ Work For; 3=Status/Position in world-Career-Mother-Sisters-Brothers-Travel; 4=Home-$ Get; 5=Others; 6=Health Problems; 7=Spouse-Father-May affect home; 8=Death.
Technically the Angles have a five-degree Angle Orb and planets within that five degrees are more intense. However for all practical purposes for Psychological Conditions and Makeup / Character the Constellation on the Ascendant is Angular eTc.
Interpersonal relationships: inner-aspects you get your own; planets give to angles; Sun always gives. Natal and cyclic interaspects are by sign. He has Natal Aries Sun, She has Natal Aries Moon = His Sun/Spirit is conjunct Her Moon/Soul (the basic yin yang couple polarity) the closer the stronger. In business X has Jupiter in Gemini; Y has Saturn in Gemini = X wins. Progressed use close aspects.
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IIB. The Progressed Technique: For Timing of Events read all charts with the Progressed Technique, which is a zero degree Angle and Aspect orb. Normal rules apply, applying aspects are stronger than separating etc. Progressed Charts are basically daily charts, however they may be read as Event Charts with a Natal Technique for a several day span. The Annual Secondary Progressed a several year span.
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IIC. The Predictive Technique: The Natal; Secondary Progressed Planets and Primary Angles; Secondary Natal Quotidian (SNQ); Solar Return, Monthly Solar Return and Lunar Return and their daily Progressed Main Angles; also the Event Chart inner-aspected with the Transits and major Fixed Star aspects to all. Reading the Natal, Cyclic Charts, and Event Chart with a five-degree angle orb and the Progressed Charts at a zero degree angle orb. Illuminated angularity being the most important factor (e.g. Sun Moon Jupiter Rising on many charts etc).
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8:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So what do you think about the birth certificate with birth time released by Obama's campaign to counter claims that he is not a native born American citizen, confirming Obama's Aquarius Rising?

11:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I do not agree with the analysis posted above. This is what happens when the so called vedic astrologers make predictions off the top their head without having a deep understanding of the ancient Indian science.

Obama is currently runing the bukthi of moon (in its own star- Rohini) in the dasa of Jupiter (Jupiter gets neecha banga raja yoga and also strong in navamsa.)

John Mccain is runing the bukthi of Jupiter in 3rd in Saturn dasa. Also his lagna and 10th lord Mercury is debilitated in the namvamsa - is weak.

I predict that Senator Obama will win this election handily.

Shiva

10:26 AM  
Blogger Les said...

Anonymous Shiva was right. I would hope some of those astrologers have learned their lessons: Put aside your inflated ego and go back to the drawing board. You will be better astrologers for it.

1:23 PM  

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